Wells Fargo Bank changes

[Jimmy Crossley]

I used to use Quicken long ago before I discovered gnucash. I use gnucash to download transactions from a checking account at Wells Fargo Bank. I am a USA resident. I do not use Wells Fargo for bill payment. Recently, since Wells Fargo probably still thinks I am using Quicken, I received the following email. I am currently using the setup I found at http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/OFX_Direct_Connect_Bank_Settings (Server URL: https://www.oasis.cfree.com/3001.ofxgp, FID: 3001, ORG: Wells Fargo).

Customer support at Wells Fargo, like most financial institutions, have never heard of gnucash and certainly do not support it. The instructions on their site basically say to remove Wells Fargo and add it back. Quicken will take care of setting everything up using the latest settings.

Does anyone know what changes I need to make in gnucash to continue to be able to download transactions?

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From: Wells Fargo Online [mailto:***@notify.wellsfargo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 20:35
To: <me>
Subject: Wells Fargo: Action Required for Quicken or QuickBooks

Action required for your Quicken(r) or QuickBooks(r) account
Wells Fargo has moved to a new system supporting Quicken and QuickBooks users. Please make changes within your software by November 30, 2011 to avoid having your service discontinued and all pending bill payments automatically canceled on December 7, 2011.

What you need to do

1. Before November 30, visit https://www.wellsfargo.com/quickensettings or https://www.wellsfargo.com/quickbookssettings and follow the step-by-step instructions to move your account(s) to the new system. Changes should take less than 30 minutes. Please cancel any pending payments before moving to the new system.

2. After you've made the move to the new system, you will need to reestablish your payments. You do not need to make any changes to your payees.

We hope you will enjoy the new benefits included in the service:
* Unlimited connections to Wells Fargo.
* Unlimited bill payments if you subscribe to Bill Pay.
* The same username and password for Quicken or QuickBooks and Wells Fargo Online banking.
* Same-day processing for transfer requests made before 8:00 pm (6:30 pm in Ohio and Indiana) Pacific Time, Monday - Friday.
If you have questions, we are available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Call us at 1-800-956-4442 or sign on to send a secure email.

Sincerely,

Wells Fargo Online Customer Service



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[David Carlson]

I would be very suspicious that this is phishing.  Do nothing unless you have personally contacted Wells Fargo by telephone or secure internet connection.

David

--- On Sat, 11/26/11, Jimmy Crossley <***@conetrix.com> wrote:

From: Jimmy Crossley <***@conetrix.com>
Subject: Wells Fargo Bank changes
To: "gnucash-***@gnucash.org" <gnucash-***@gnucash.org>
Date: Saturday, November 26, 2011, 12:43 PM

I used to use Quicken long ago before I discovered gnucash.  I use gnucash to download transactions from a checking account at Wells Fargo Bank.  I am a USA resident.  I do not use Wells Fargo for bill payment.  Recently, since Wells Fargo probably still thinks I am using Quicken, I received the following email.  I am currently using the setup I found at http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/OFX_Direct_Connect_Bank_Settings (Server URL: https://www.oasis.cfree.com/3001.ofxgp, FID: 3001, ORG: Wells Fargo).

Customer support at Wells Fargo, like most financial institutions, have never heard of gnucash and certainly do not support it.  The instructions on their site basically say to remove Wells Fargo and add it back.  Quicken will take care of setting everything up using the latest settings.

Does anyone know what changes I need to make in gnucash to continue to be able to download transactions?

------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Wells Fargo Online [mailto:***@notify.wellsfargo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 20:35
To: <me>
Subject: Wells Fargo: Action Required for Quicken or QuickBooks

Action required for your Quicken(r) or QuickBooks(r) account
Wells Fargo has moved to a new system supporting Quicken and QuickBooks users. Please make changes within your software by November 30, 2011 to avoid having your service discontinued and all pending bill payments automatically canceled on December 7, 2011.

What you need to do

1.      Before November 30, visit https://www.wellsfargo.com/quickensettings or https://www.wellsfargo.com/quickbookssettings and follow the step-by-step instructions to move your account(s) to the new system. Changes should take less than 30 minutes. Please cancel any pending payments before moving to the new system.

2.      After you've made the move to the new system, you will need to reestablish your payments. You do not need to make any changes to your payees.

We hope you will enjoy the new benefits included in the service:
*       Unlimited connections to Wells Fargo.
*       Unlimited bill payments if you subscribe to Bill Pay.
*       The same username and password for Quicken or QuickBooks and Wells Fargo Online banking.
*       Same-day processing for transfer requests made before 8:00 pm (6:30 pm in Ohio and Indiana) Pacific Time, Monday - Friday.
If you have questions, we are available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Call us at 1-800-956-4442 or sign on to send a secure email.

Sincerely,

Wells Fargo Online Customer Service



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[Jimmy Crossley]

I do not believe this is a phishing email. You can copy this URL https://www.wellsfargo.com/quicken/directconnect/upgrade and paste it into your browser and check the certificate.

From: David Carlson [mailto:***@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 13:33
To: gnucash-***@gnucash.org; Jimmy Crossley
Subject: Re: Wells Fargo Bank changes

I would be very suspicious that this is phishing.  Do nothing unless you have personally contacted Wells Fargo by telephone or secure internet connection.

David

--- On Sat, 11/26/11, Jimmy Crossley <***@conetrix.com> wrote:

From: Jimmy Crossley <***@conetrix.com>
Subject: Wells Fargo Bank changes
To: "gnucash-***@gnucash.org" <gnucash-***@gnucash.org>
Date: Saturday, November 26, 2011, 12:43 PM
I used to use Quicken long ago before I discovered gnucash.  I use gnucash to download transactions from a checking account at Wells Fargo Bank.  I am a USA resident.  I do not use Wells Fargo for bill payment.  Recently, since Wells Fargo probably still thinks I am using Quicken, I received the following email.  I am currently using the setup I found at http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/OFX_Direct_Connect_Bank_Settings (Server URL: https://www.oasis.cfree.com/3001.ofxgp, FID: 3001, ORG: Wells Fargo).

Customer support at Wells Fargo, like most financial institutions, have never heard of gnucash and certainly do not support it.  The instructions on their site basically say to remove Wells Fargo and add it back.  Quicken will take care of setting everything up using the latest settings.

Does anyone know what changes I need to make in gnucash to continue to be able to download transactions?

------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Wells Fargo Online [mailto:***@notify.wellsfargo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 20:35
To: <me>
Subject: Wells Fargo: Action Required for Quicken or QuickBooks

Action required for your Quicken(r) or QuickBooks(r) account
Wells Fargo has moved to a new system supporting Quicken and QuickBooks users. Please make changes within your software by November 30, 2011 to avoid having your service discontinued and all pending bill payments automatically canceled on December 7, 2011.

What you need to do

1.      Before November 30, visit https://www.wellsfargo.com/quickensettings or https://www.wellsfargo.com/quickbookssettings and follow the step-by-step instructions to move your account(s) to the new system. Changes should take less than 30 minutes. Please cancel any pending payments before moving to the new system.

2.      After you've made the move to the new system, you will need to reestablish your payments. You do not need to make any changes to your payees.

We hope you will enjoy the new benefits included in the service:
*       Unlimited connections to Wells Fargo.
*       Unlimited bill payments if you subscribe to Bill Pay.
*       The same username and password for Quicken or QuickBooks and Wells Fargo Online banking.
*       Same-day processing for transfer requests made before 8:00 pm (6:30 pm in Ohio and Indiana) Pacific Time, Monday - Friday.
If you have questions, we are available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Call us at 1-800-956-4442 or sign on to send a secure email.

Sincerely,

Wells Fargo Online Customer Service



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[John Layman]

I have Wells Fargo accounts, but only do manual downloads. They did, in
fact, just change the download backend. No phishing going on here.

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Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 2:33 PM
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Subject: Re: Wells Fargo Bank changes

I would be very suspicious that this is phishing.  Do nothing unless you
have personally contacted Wells Fargo by telephone or secure internet
connection.

David

--- On Sat, 11/26/11, Jimmy Crossley <***@conetrix.com> wrote:

From: Jimmy Crossley <***@conetrix.com>
Subject: Wells Fargo Bank changes
To: "gnucash-***@gnucash.org" <gnucash-***@gnucash.org>
Date: Saturday, November 26, 2011, 12:43 PM

I used to use Quicken long ago before I discovered gnucash.  I use gnucash
to download transactions from a checking account at Wells Fargo Bank.  I am
a USA resident.  I do not use Wells Fargo for bill payment.  Recently, since
Wells Fargo probably still thinks I am using Quicken, I received the
following email.  I am currently using the setup I found at
http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/OFX_Direct_Connect_Bank_Settings (Server URL:
https://www.oasis.cfree.com/3001.ofxgp, FID: 3001, ORG: Wells Fargo).

Customer support at Wells Fargo, like most financial institutions, have
never heard of gnucash and certainly do not support it.  The instructions on
their site basically say to remove Wells Fargo and add it back.  Quicken
will take care of setting everything up using the latest settings.

Does anyone know what changes I need to make in gnucash to continue to be
able to download transactions?

------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Wells Fargo Online [mailto:***@notify.wellsfargo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 20:35
To: <me>
Subject: Wells Fargo: Action Required for Quicken or QuickBooks

Action required for your Quicken(r) or QuickBooks(r) account Wells Fargo has
moved to a new system supporting Quicken and QuickBooks users. Please make
changes within your software by November 30, 2011 to avoid having your
service discontinued and all pending bill payments automatically canceled on
December 7, 2011.

What you need to do

1.      Before November 30, visit https://www.wellsfargo.com/quickensettings
or https://www.wellsfargo.com/quickbookssettings and follow the step-by-step
instructions to move your account(s) to the new system. Changes should take
less than 30 minutes. Please cancel any pending payments before moving to
the new system.

2.      After you've made the move to the new system, you will need to
reestablish your payments. You do not need to make any changes to your
payees.

We hope you will enjoy the new benefits included in the service:
*       Unlimited connections to Wells Fargo.
*       Unlimited bill payments if you subscribe to Bill Pay.
*       The same username and password for Quicken or QuickBooks and Wells
Fargo Online banking.
*       Same-day processing for transfer requests made before 8:00 pm (6:30
pm in Ohio and Indiana) Pacific Time, Monday - Friday.
If you have questions, we are available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Call
us at 1-800-956-4442 or sign on to send a secure email.

Sincerely,

Wells Fargo Online Customer Service



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[John Ralls]

Post by Jimmy Crossley
I used to use Quicken long ago before I discovered gnucash. I use gnucash to download transactions from a checking account at Wells Fargo Bank. I am a USA resident. I do not use Wells Fargo for bill payment. Recently, since Wells Fargo probably still thinks I am using Quicken, I received the following email. I am currently using the setup I found at http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/OFX_Direct_Connect_Bank_Settings (Server URL: https://www.oasis.cfree.com/3001.ofxgp, FID: 3001, ORG: Wells Fargo).
Customer support at Wells Fargo, like most financial institutions, have never heard of gnucash and certainly do not support it. The instructions on their site basically say to remove Wells Fargo and add it back. Quicken will take care of setting everything up using the latest settings.
Does anyone know what changes I need to make in gnucash to continue to be able to download transactions?

After looking over the migration PDF, I think that you need to switch to these settings:
http://www.ofxhome.com/index.php/institution/view/749

If you're using a recent version of GnuCash and AQBanking, you should be able to select "Wells Fargo Bank (749)" from the "Select a Bank" dialog (click on "select" next to the bank name field in the Create User dialog box) to get these settings without having to input the settings yourself.

Other than that detail, I suggest you carefully follow the Quicken instructions for reconciling via Checkfree (www.oasis.cfree.com) before changing your online settings.

Regards,
John Ralls



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[Robin Chattopadhyay]

Here are the settings I used to access Wells Fargo OFX Direct Connect:

FID: 3000
ORG: WF
Server URL: https://ofxdc.wellsfargo.com/ofx/process.ofx
APPID: QWIN
APPVER: 1900

The original APPVER that I got from the link the John posted put 1200 as
the APPVER. This resulted in an error that I found in the ofx.log file. I
experimented with the "Wachovia" settings and I had success when I added
the APPID and APPVER to the Expert Settings in the User setup wizard.

Post by Jimmy Crossley

Post by Jimmy Crossley
I used to use Quicken long ago before I discovered gnucash. I use

gnucash to download transactions from a checking account at Wells Fargo
Bank. I am a USA resident. I do not use Wells Fargo for bill payment.
Recently, since Wells Fargo probably still thinks I am using Quicken, I
received the following email. I am currently using the setup I found at
http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/OFX_Direct_Connect_Bank_Settings (Server
URL: https://www.oasis.cfree.com/3001.ofxgp, FID: 3001, ORG: Wells Fargo).

Post by Jimmy Crossley
Customer support at Wells Fargo, like most financial institutions, have

never heard of gnucash and certainly do not support it. The instructions
on their site basically say to remove Wells Fargo and add it back. Quicken
will take care of setting everything up using the latest settings.

Post by Jimmy Crossley
Does anyone know what changes I need to make in gnucash to continue to

be able to download transactions?
http://www.ofxhome.com/index.php/institution/view/749
If you're using a recent version of GnuCash and AQBanking, you should be
able to select "Wells Fargo Bank (749)" from the "Select a Bank" dialog
(click on "select" next to the bank name field in the Create User dialog
box) to get these settings without having to input the settings yourself.
Other than that detail, I suggest you carefully follow the Quicken
instructions for reconciling via Checkfree (www.oasis.cfree.com) before
changing your online settings.
Regards,
John Ralls
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[Jimmy Crossley]

Solved!

Thanks to everyone who responded to my posting about using Wells Fargo with gnucash. I am especially thankful to Robin – the APPID and APPVER is what got it working for me using the new URL, etc. I also had to uncheck the “Force SSLv3” checkbox on the OFX tab in the User Configuration. I sniffed my traffic and it is using TLS 1.0, which is just about as safe as possible right now. Now the real test is to see if this configuration keeps working after the deadline of 30 Nov. I will (of course) post back if any problems arise.




Jimmy Crossley


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From: Robin Chattopadhyay [mailto:***@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 20:50
To: John Ralls
Cc: Jimmy Crossley; gnucash-***@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: Wells Fargo Bank changes

Here are the settings I used to access Wells Fargo OFX Direct Connect:

FID: 3000
ORG: WF
Server URL: https://ofxdc.wellsfargo.com/ofx/process.ofx
APPID: QWIN
APPVER: 1900

The original APPVER that I got from the link the John posted put 1200 as the APPVER. This resulted in an error that I found in the ofx.log file. I experimented with the "Wachovia" settings and I had success when I added the APPID and APPVER to the Expert Settings in the User setup wizard.

Post by Jimmy Crossley
I used to use Quicken long ago before I discovered gnucash. I use gnucash to download transactions from a checking account at Wells Fargo Bank. I am a USA resident. I do not use Wells Fargo for bill payment. Recently, since Wells Fargo probably still thinks I am using Quicken, I received the following email. I am currently using the setup I found at http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/OFX_Direct_Connect_Bank_Settings (Server URL: https://www.oasis.cfree.com/3001.ofxgp, FID: 3001, ORG: Wells Fargo).
Customer support at Wells Fargo, like most financial institutions, have never heard of gnucash and certainly do not support it. The instructions on their site basically say to remove Wells Fargo and add it back. Quicken will take care of setting everything up using the latest settings.
Does anyone know what changes I need to make in gnucash to continue to be able to download transactions?

After looking over the migration PDF, I think that you need to switch to these settings:
http://www.ofxhome.com/index.php/institution/view/749

If you're using a recent version of GnuCash and AQBanking, you should be able to select "Wells Fargo Bank (749)" from the "Select a Bank" dialog (click on "select" next to the bank name field in the Create User dialog box) to get these settings without having to input the settings yourself.

Other than that detail, I suggest you carefully follow the Quicken instructions for reconciling via Checkfree (www.oasis.cfree.com<http://www.oasis.cfree.com>) before changing your online settings.

Regards,
John Ralls



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Post by Jimmy Crossley
Solved!
Thanks to everyone who responded to my posting about using Wells Fargo with gnucash. I am especially thankful to Robin – the APPID and APPVER is what got it working for me using the new URL, etc. I also had to uncheck the “Force SSLv3” checkbox on the OFX tab in the User Configuration. I sniffed my traffic and it is using TLS 1.0, which is just about as safe as possible right now. Now the real test is to see if this configuration keeps working after the deadline of 30 Nov. I will (of course) post back if any problems arise.

If there were tweaks required one of you should feed those back to ofxhome.com so that others may benefit.

Regards,
John Ralls

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[Jimmy Crossley]

Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 21:39
To: Jimmy Crossley
Subject: Re: Wells Fargo Bank changes
Solved!
 
Thanks to everyone who responded to my posting about using Wells Fargo with gnucash.   I am
especially thankful to Robin - the APPID and APPVER is what got it working for me using the new
URL, etc.   I also had to uncheck the "Force SSLv3" checkbox on the OFX tab in the User
Configuration.  I sniffed my traffic and it is using TLS 1.0, which is just about as safe as
possible right now.  Now the real test is to see if this configuration keeps working after the
deadline of 30 Nov.  I will (of course) post back if any problems arise.
 
If there were tweaks required one of you should feed those back to ofxhome.com so that others
may benefit.
Regards,
John Ralls

The URL in the ofxhome database is correct. I posted a comment with Martin's list of Intuit versions and values to use. I am thankful and very pleased with everyone on this list and the overall professional tone.


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[Liz]

On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 12:43:30 -0600

Post by Jimmy Crossley
I used to use Quicken long ago before I discovered gnucash.

snip

Post by Jimmy Crossley
Action required for your Quicken(r) or QuickBooks(r) account
Wells Fargo has moved to a new system supporting Quicken and
QuickBooks users. Please make changes within your software by
November 30, 2011 to avoid having your service discontinued and all
pending bill payments automatically canceled on December 7, 2011.

another snip
another snip

Post by Jimmy Crossley
* The same username and password for Quicken or QuickBooks and
Wells Fargo Online banking.

well that makes a big security problem to me.
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Post by John Layman
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 15:35
Subject: Re: Wells Fargo Bank changes
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 12:43:30 -0600

Post by Jimmy Crossley
I used to use Quicken long ago before I discovered gnucash.

snip

Post by Jimmy Crossley
Action required for your Quicken(r) or QuickBooks(r) account
Wells Fargo has moved to a new system supporting Quicken and
QuickBooks users. Please make changes within your software by
November 30, 2011 to avoid having your service discontinued and all
pending bill payments automatically canceled on December 7, 2011.

another snip
another snip

Post by Jimmy Crossley
* The same username and password for Quicken or QuickBooks and
Wells Fargo Online banking.

well that makes a big security problem to me.
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I think the changes are adding more security because Quicken (and gnucash) used to use a 4 digit PIN. Now the longer, more secure password is used. Here are the requirements for the password:

Must be 6 to 14 characters.
Must contain at least one letter and one number.
May not repeat the same number or letter more than 3 times in a row.
May not contain more than 3 sequential numbers or letters (such as '1234' or 'abcd') in a row.

Post by John Layman
From https://online.wellsfargo.com/das/channel/helpText?key=fieldhelp_PasswordCreation

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